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I would like to propose renaming the tag for SQL Server Management Studio to use the program's full title.

Presumably the abbreviated tag name was created before the maximum tag length was increased to 35 characters.

(For reference, this tag currently has 772 questions)

  • Really great suggestion Steven, stick around. – Evan Carroll Apr 30 '18 at 19:43
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    Thnx for the suggestion. Although I disagree, it's good to have a discussion. – ypercubeᵀᴹ Apr 30 '18 at 20:54
  • Just +1 for the same reason as @ypercubeᵀᴹ. It's good to have a discussion once in a while. – hot2use May 15 '18 at 13:37
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No.

I do acknowledge that generally it should be easier to understand what the question is about when the tag shows the full name of a product than when it shows an abbreviation.

However, in my view that argument's weight is lessened in this specific case by the fact that the SSMS abbreviation is fairly well-known in the SQL Server world. And we do show the expanded name in the tag guidance for those who do need an explanation.

At the same time, there are arguments against the rename. First, is much, much shorter than . Because of the dramatic difference in length, it could take noticeably longer to scan the tag section if we go with the proposed change (again, my personal opinion). Not the end of the world but the difference might still prove annoying.

Secondly, when editing the Tags section of a question, I like to take advantage of the list of suggestions that shows when I start typing the name of a tag. Now, there are many tags already, and the suggestion list shows only 6 items, which are chosen based on their popularity. Currently the number of SSMS questions doesn't make one of the top 6 SQL Server-related tags. However, that might well change in the future, which would mean that would start showing in the suggestion list along with tags related to SQL Server versions or concepts when I start typing sql-server-. Now, fair enough, you will say, if it's popular enough, why not. My response to that is, a tag for something that can work well as an abbreviation should not force out a tag related to a thing that cannot be abbreviated.

And finally, something that isn't a counter-argument per se, but still. If we go with the proposed rename, shouldn't we be consistent and rename other tags, like e.g. , , ? Expanding all abbreviations might make some questions clearer to less familiar audience. I expect that it will also reinforce my two counter-points above, though.

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    I was under the impression that, if the tag were synonymized, it would still appear as a suggestion when typing ssms. – Stevoisiak Apr 30 '18 at 20:49
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    +1; in my opinion, anyone likely to ask a question about SQL Server Management Studio is far more likely to type in ssms than sql-server-management-studio. – Max Vernon Apr 30 '18 at 20:49
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    @StevenVascellaro: It would, but I'm not arguing that. My problem is with the scenario when you are typing sql-server- and getting sql-server-management-studio when instead you could be shown something more useful (speaking subjectively, again). – Andriy M Apr 30 '18 at 20:52
  • + 1 Yes, the abbreviation SSMS is very well-known in SQL Server environments. And being consistent with that rename logic (expanding all abbreviations), we could also end up renaming dba.stackexchange to databaseadministrators.stackexchange, for instance. – MDCCL May 1 '18 at 0:44
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    @AndriyM But (as you say in your answer) the main problem you mention does not happen. It is unlikely (in my view) that ssms (renamed or not) will ever exceed the count of the product name tags sql-server-xxxx. And yes, we should consider other expansions. Steven is correct about how the synonym would work. If nothing else, we should try this easily-reversed suggestion as a trial to see if any of the concerns (of people very familiar with SSMS) actually materialize. – Paul White May 1 '18 at 0:46
  • @PaulWhite: I feel I have to agree with you about ssms/sql-server-management-studio getting into the top 6 SQL Server-related tags. Having taken another look at the numbers, I must admit the probability looks very remote at the current pace. – Andriy M May 1 '18 at 13:22
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Sort of.

It is worth having but it should be a synonym of as currently is.

Result: would remain the display tag, but tag search etc. would match the longer forms.

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Yes.

This makes sense. We should do this (with as a synonym), at least as a trial.

The rename could be easily reversed if any of the anticipated drawbacks actually materialize.

Our tags are inconsistently expanded - mostly due to the historical tag length limitation e.g.

That said, the question is not about whether all acronyms should be expanded or not.

  • With both the acronym and expanded text available I think this would be OK. – Michael Green May 1 '18 at 1:24
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No

SSMS is the common term among users, it would be like renaming SQL to the full term!

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