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Post synonyms and redundant tags here (one tag set per answer) for us to ponder and potentially edit out of existence.

5
  • MSSQL
  • SQLSERVER

I think we can all agree that generally those two mean the same thing?

3

synonyms

  • dual
  • oracle

because I don't think anyone else has a "dual" in their implementation do they?

  • Yes, 'dual' should be rewritten as a 'oracle' because it's not a preferred access point ... but that's not technically a synonym. – Joe Jan 10 '11 at 18:13
  • @Joe all I mean is that when someone writes SELECT ... FROM DUAL ... I instantly read "Oracle development" as one of the attributes of whatever problem is being discussed. – jcolebrand Jan 10 '11 at 20:58
  • In a thesaurus, the relationship you're describing would be USE or PT (preferred term), not SN (synonym). SN means that the terms are interchangable, as would ET (equivalent term; they're interchangable for our purposes), SP (spelling variant), etc. – Joe Jan 11 '11 at 1:13
  • @Joe ~ I just kind of meant tag-synonym. I'm sure you're correct tho. – jcolebrand Jan 11 '11 at 1:18
  • MySQL has dual, too (I guess as an attempt for compatibility with Oracle) – ypercubeᵀᴹ Apr 12 '13 at 7:54
  • How interesting. – jcolebrand Apr 13 '13 at 0:24
3

Redundant tag:

sql-server-2008r2
sql-server-2008-r2

I propose that we remove the sql-server-2008r2 tag as it had only 3 entries as opposed to the 700+ entries for the sql-server-2008-r2 tag.

3

Tag regular-expression

This tag could/should be the base tag for regex

Usage Guidance for Tag

<empty>

Tag regex

This tag should be the synonym for regular-expression as per the quick info:

a shortening of the phrase "regular expression". A regex is typically a sequence of characters that forms a search pattern,

Usage Guidance for Tag

The term REGEX is a shortening of the phrase "regular expression". A regex is typically a sequence of characters that forms a search pattern, mainly for use in pattern matching with strings.

2

synonym?

  • no-value
  • empty-string

The hard part here is that there's also the matter of

  • null

which the three of these form a triplet around which most people have a hard time.


Personally I say vote this particular answer down. But I'm asking for community guidance, I'm not sure at all.

  • I say keep the null tag and delete the others. – Larry Coleman Jan 10 '11 at 20:55
  • @Larry is that a joke? damn you text only transcripts for not carrying 90% of communication inherently!! – jcolebrand Jan 10 '11 at 20:57
  • I'm serious. We're DBA's here, and DBA's spell no value "N-U-L-L". – Larry Coleman Jan 10 '11 at 20:59
  • But you admit that developers and the like (meaning everyone not a DBA) reads "empty string" as "no value" right? – jcolebrand Jan 10 '11 at 21:01
  • @drachenstern: Sure, so maybe the answer is that the others are synonyms pointing to null. Or are we expecting our audience to consist mostly of non-DBA's? – Larry Coleman Jan 10 '11 at 21:10
  • And now we come to the dilemma of my posting this particular answer/question in the first place :| ... I think the three are a good synonym, allowing DBAs to assist the non-DBAs based on tag-sets on the front page, etc. ~ Remember, deleting the tag just encourages it to get re-created later. Creating a tag-synonym lets the system correlate answers on our behalf. – jcolebrand Jan 10 '11 at 21:13
  • @drachenstern: I agree, then, that a synonym is what we want. – Larry Coleman Jan 10 '11 at 21:42
1

synonyms:

  • slow log
  • logging
  • logs

I'm sure there will be others. I don't know that they necessarily in our context mean the same things...

0

Merge ssis and ssis2008 and just use ssis. For version specific features, the sql version tag can be included.

-2

How about:

  • sql-server-2008
    • Used for all versions of MS Sql Server 2008
    • OR
    • Only the R1 release of MS Sql Server 2008
  • sql-server-2008-R2
    • For problems specifically targeting MS Sql Server 2008 R2

I know they're not the same, but there's over 200 questions with 2008 and only 12 or so with R2. At this point, can't these two tags be merged/synonymed??

  • What benefit does merging give us on these two tags? – jcolebrand Aug 9 '11 at 14:27
  • I would think it would give us all the benefits of merging any two tags. Searches become simpler; deciding which tag to use becomes simpler; you help prevent tag overload, etc. – Richard Aug 9 '11 at 15:02
  • I meant, there is a difference between R1 and R2. Do you think we should reversion so that non-R2 Q become called out for the fact that they're non R2? Does everyone just assume that 2008 means R2? – jcolebrand Aug 9 '11 at 15:05
  • Oh, that makes more sense. ;) Unfortunately, I don't know what everyone assumes. However, looking at the 11 R2 posts, it seems that none of them are asking questions that are specifically R2. I haven't looked at the 216 non-R2 questions, but I would think that the vast majority of them would apply to R2. If the differences are too great between R1 and R2, I wouldn't mind leaving R2. It just seems unused by comparison. – Richard Aug 9 '11 at 17:40
  • And so it may be. Let's leave this Q up for a bit and see what support it garners. – jcolebrand Aug 9 '11 at 19:29
  • I think SQL-Server questions shouls have a [sql-server] tag and a specific per version tag, 2000, 2005, 2008, 2008-R2 or 2012. We'll have more questions tagged with 2012 in the future but that doesn't mean that they need specific features of 2012 to be solved. I don't think you agree to merge all the sql-server versions tags? – ypercubeᵀᴹ Apr 12 '13 at 7:59

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